"and other cars are using them also, so the theory or priniciples are not just "home brew" by Labree"
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"I can say that the ultimate downpipe concept is nothing new"You have companies that R&D, crunch numbers and test repeatedly and then you have companies that see what the other guys are doing, copy it and make it 25% bigger (because it has to be better!). All without any real understanding of how it works, why it works and at what point the returns diminish. This is what Labree has done. What data has anyone ever seen out of them except maybe a dyno pull or two on cars under his own control? Nothing. Can't we just wait until both companies using this "concept" (as you put it) do some real testing and put out some real results? Until then, these rambling, say nothing posts trying to justify your purchase get the big 'ol VTD. Sheesh.
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